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Thank you for finishing the job on above, Morphh (way beyond my pay grede ; ). --Thomasmeeks (talk) 13:26, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Hello, M. I have ttried to formuate a response but wanted to give it a little rest for now (like 18 hrs.). Hope you'll keep an open mind, as I have attempted in trying to in meet your concern. --Thomasmeeks (talk)

Thanks, look forward to the response. I'm open to the idea but just not convinced at this point that it makes it better. :-) I posted a quick notice at the Economics WikiProject to get a few more people to offer their thoughts. Morphh ^(talk) 12:35, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

OK. I've done some more more moodling around and hope that it will be non-issue per changes indicated. Wish I had taken action on that earlier. --Thomasmeeks (talk) 15:21, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Category:Low-importance Economics articles

You may want to check your bot. You listed this as empty along with several others and they are not empty. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:49, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

They contain no articles, only sub-categories, which we're trying to get rid of as well. I think the bot for the quality/importance intersect is seeing the importance category and not moving them properly to the priority cat. Morphh ^(talk) 11:52, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Motto of the Day

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Glen Beck

What are your ideas for compromise on the Glen Beck article? Personally, I see the whole "Media persona and commentary" as a POV section just to throw in negative incidents about Beck. None of it is noteworthy. Comments? Bytebear (talk) 17:57, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

I think his style and critical positions are part of his notability. So, while no one particular incident is notable, I think we should put together something that describes these aspects. I'm completely against listing or bulleting incidents like how it was presented earlier. I don't think the details are all that important, but I think we need to properly portray his media persona. I think part of the compromise is adding examples of that controversial personality. He's an opinionated person and he's going to (and likely wants to) create waves. So long we follow NPOV policy and Beck's view is not misrepresented by the critical statements, I think we should include something. It needs to stay summarized and brief (NPOV undue weight policy), and be related to the notability (BLP). I think a couple paragraphs would be fine that included both points of view on criticized statements. We also have to consider that Beck may not get the type of attention that we would usually require for something to be properly notable to him (Beck's controversial views might not be big news).

On another note though, there are many other aspects of the article that could use a good bit of expanding (like his NYT bestselling books that get one sentence each). Morphh ^(talk) 2:07, 03 August 2009 (UTC)

Intellectually dishonest horseshit, Morphh, and you know it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.164.157.106 (talk) 01:42, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I will have the time to do more on the Glenn Beck talk page next week. Thank you for participating. --Hardindr (talk) 19:14, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Making a Wikipedia user page

Hi Morphh,

I love your page. Can you please show me how to put up cool graphics like yours? Thanks,Malke 2010 (talk) 01:09, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Morphh ^(talk) 1:20, 07 August 2009 (UTC)

Cool. . .thanks Morphh. Also any tips on editing would be most appreciated. I'm trying to clean up Karl Rove's article. It's a mess. I want to make it neutral and accurate with real references and not the references that refer to someone who knew someone who once said, blah blah blah about Karl Rove. ThanksMalke 2010 (talk) 01:27, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Please Help

Hi Morphh:

Do you have any suggestions for editing an article? I'm trying to neutralize the article on Karl Rove. I made changes but they were all reversed immediately. I understand that this is a hot topic for some, but the article is so badly written and truly one-sided that I feel it violates the spirit of Wikipedia.

Also, how do you avoid editing wars and do people ever enlist the aid of an administrator? Thanks, Malke 2010 (talk) 09:43, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

How do I flag an article?

Hi Morphh

I want to put up a flag on an article citing the intricate detail.

How do I do that? Thanks, Malke 2010 (talk) 01:07, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

August 2009

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Glenn Beck. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. Nja²⁴⁷ 07:07, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm aware of the rule and will not break it. I just happen to be watching the article at the time. Morphh ^(talk) 12:33, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Glenn Beck.

What I want is a balanced article; one which doesn't leave people thinking he's a saint, just because he's a Mormon, which is what it pretty much says now. ANd what I see on your part is either unintentional enabling of Bytebear's biases and intention to white-wash, or a deliberate accomplice to it. Beck has saied incredibly stupid things, repeatedly, then stuck to them. He's a master of the 'Have you stopped beating your wife?' questions, and then bombastically expounds on any failure to thread that needle of an answer. This article does almost nothing to address that. We've now got in ONE, and only one of his major blunders; we need to include more, since it seems no one's yet cataloged his idiocies and written about them directly, though I'm working on finding such articles. ThuranX (talk) 14:19, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

I started out working from the point of view that good writing and understanding of policy would fix the situation as well, but quickly saw that any time bytebear raises another 'objection';, you facilitate it by expecting everyone to stop and listen to him run his spiel again. you are enabling his semi-civil POV Push, in my eyes. You need to stand up for the policies, and for a good article, and not for the editor. An article which remains neutral is NOT achieved by pandering to one editor until that hold-out says it's ok in his eyes; it's by respecting the wider consensus and telling an editor who unreasonably won't budge to go jump in a lake. Look at that section now. FOUR editors have come in since the WP:AN report and all agree the page is a travesty. Instead of respecting that, you continue to advocate for Bytebear, as though he will suddenly desire a constructive participation in the article. He won't. Go read the removed critique of his behavior on the talk page. There is no way he will even accept any amount of negative criticism of Beck, no matter who says it. It's time to move beyond Bytebear, and do what is right for the article. ThuranX (talk) 14:25, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

No... My point is that although the reparations statement was made contemporary to the Gates incident, it was not predicated on it, as the Obama is a racist statement was. 'Obama is a racist' and institutional racism stuff went to the matter of calling the cops stupid and making racial assumptions, the reparations is thoroughly different and about health care. A case could e made that both are indicative of Beck's own bigotries, but we'd need a serious stack of citation for that. In lieu of that, we need to keep the two separate, lest we run into a SYNTH violation, and because they are about two different issues. There may be a way to restructure the entire article to put both into one section, but that would probably also violate BLP/POV, because it would stick two similar things close together without a legitimate sourced bridge. ThuranX (talk) 17:48, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Interesting how differently you work without Bytebear. And it's GlenN, not Glen, by the way. He's just two Ns classy. ThuranX (talk) 18:04, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

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